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@ 2009-06-25 22:55:00
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Elements!
Theodore Gray's excellent site about elements and chemistry, makes excellent reading. He also has a really nifty book out showing dangerous and impressive demonstrations of chemistry. I bought a signed copy, it's a really fun read. Granted, about a third of the things he shows are things I've tried myself, and a handful more are things I may well try in the future. The rest are something I'm not about to attempt alone!

While admiring his excellent element collection, I started musing about what sort of an element collection I could assemble from things I already have around. There are a lot of judgement calls involved, but here's a first cut. I could make a case for things like chromium and vanadium, as I probably have some bits of stainless and other interesting steel alloys, but I can't point to them, so I'm not counting them. Similarly with several other elements (potassium, fluorine, bromine, niobium, manganese, and so on).

H He
Li Be B C N O F Ne
Na Mg Al Si P S Cl Ar
K Ca Sc Ti V Cr Mn Fe Co Ni Cu Zn Ga Ge As Se Br Kr
Rb Sr Y Zr Nb Mo Tc Ru Rh Pd Ag Cd In Sn Sb Te I Xe
Cs Ba Hf Ta W Re Os Ir Pt Au Hg Tl Pb Bi Po At Rn
Fr Ra
La Ce Pr Nd Pm Sm Eu Gd Tb Dy Ho Er Tm Tb Lu
Ac Th Pa U Np Pu Am Cm Bk Cf Es Fm Md No Lr
pure, separate
pure, inside something
mixture/alloy
compound
trace
do not possess
radioactive


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[info]randomdreams
2009-06-26 03:28 am UTC (link)
So how do you mean, when you say 'inside something'? Do you include both alloys and enclosed in gas cylinders? I think a cylinder full of helium is 'pure, separate', personally.

I have one that's fairly similar, heavier in the metals and lower in the inerts, but it's helped by inheriting my father's similar collection. I was also lucky insofar as I was standing in the lobby of the chem building talking to a prof when a grad student came by with a whole rolling desk filled with stuff marked 'trash', which is how I came by a big bottle of nickel chunks, some indium, chromium, and manganese. I also worked for this weird place that was doing physical vapor deposition of copper by boiling it adjacent to the target, in these solid tungsten resistance bars, and grabbed a couple of them when they wore out -- so that's really a mix of tungsten and oxygen but since it's several pounds, I'm going to count it.
It'd be awfully neat to get a big chunk of boron or beryllium some day.

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[info]randomdreams
2009-06-26 03:30 am UTC (link)
Also: when does something go from 'compound' to 'pure'? For the glasswork, I have a bunch of fine silver, but that's probably like 98%, whereas I have some gold I scraped out of a vacuum deposition chamber that they claimed was 99.9%.

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[info]madbodger
2009-06-26 04:04 am UTC (link)
By "compound", I generally mean something like magnesium oxide, where you'd have to do chemical foo to extract the pure element. Whereas ordinary tin/lead solder is just an alloy/mixture, where neither the tin nor lead is chemically combined with anything. The fine silver is pure enough, as far as I'm concerned, unlike one web site which states something like "the highest purity obtainable is just barely good enough".

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[info]madbodger
2009-06-26 03:44 am UTC (link)
By "inside something", I mean things like hydrogen thyratrons for hydrogen, and neon lighting for neon. I'd agree a dedicated cylinder of helium is "pure".

Good score on the chem scraps and your father's goodies!

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